kire808
skoro struja
Mislis da ce dionce o&g firmi opcenito rast ili govoris samo o transocean? Ja sam kupio dionice virgin galactic dok su jos niske,jer ce druge godine kad pocnu letit skocit dosta sigurno.
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tony
2nd Officer
Nebi se slozija,dolaskom cijepiva stvar pada u zaborav a kruz industija bice jaca neg ikada.
nikola1983
New member
kojeg cjepiva, kaze kill bill da ce tek druga tura cjepiva pomoci, prva je samo hokus pokus pa neznaju jos..slazem se s kolegom gore da ko moze neka pali motore i na lng, crude oil itd se prebaci ako more...volia bi da sam u krivu i da krene bizmis s kruzerima sta prije
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kire808
skoro struja
Ja sam isto miÅ¡ljenja da je kruz otiÅ¡ao u papar. Ne mislim na to da će propasti kruz industrija,nego će pasti standard za posadu. Sad će poÄet sa rezanjma plaća i ostalog i nikad se neće vratit na staro. Ostat će to za crne i žute. Daj bože da grijeÅ¡imo.
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srelec
New member
moram se slozit s drugom kirom 888 ovi put
velike skatule ce u ropotarnicu povijesti polako
ali ovi mali kruzerici polar style i slicno ce raditi dobro
sto je uostalom i novi dir kod gradnje novih yaht barki,da svi grade polar expedition brodove,slabo ili nikako se rade kruz yahte..
Digital
Capo di tutti capi
Å ta se uhvatio tog posranog cjepiva ko pijan plota. Već sad se zna da cijepivo ovdje ne rjeÅ¡ava niÅ¡ta. Ljudi koji su preboljeli COVID-19 su se zarazili opet po nekoliko puta, a to znaÄi samo jedno - da steÄenog imuniteta kod kovida nema, pa samim time i cijepivo postaje bezvrijedno. A drugi par rukava je Å¡to Bill trovaÄ hoće napumpati živu i teÅ¡ke metale u naivce.
tony
2nd Officer
Pa kakve veze ima sta je opet dobija COVID,i sa gripom se ljudi zaraze po nekoliko puta pa postoji cijepivo protiv gripe,kakvi Bill sta pricas,znaci cili svit lud na tisuce mrtvih se broji ali teoreticara zavjere ce svejedno uvjek biti.
Kadet
New member
Naucili su se ljudi zivit sa gorim stvarima pa ce i s ovim..... bit ce sta bude, Singapur i vecina Azije su dopustili cruise, Europa isto tako. Morat ce i Ameri kad tad... Samo tribat ce dosta vrimena da se stvari unormale samim time sta je ova kriza sjebala svit i ljudi ne putuju ni priblizno ka prije...
Digital
Capo di tutti capi
Cjepivo za gripu je takoÄ‘er bezvrijedno jer za gripu nemaÅ¡ doživotni imunitet jer su mutacije prevelike. Isto je i sa kovidom. A ti vjeruj onda onom krembecilu od Billa Gatesa, od raÄunarnih virusa preÅ¡ao na bio-viruse, gdje je god poslao cjepivo ko npr. u afriÄke zemlje tamo je buknula nikad gora infekcija.
dakok
Title
Fali nam svima malo zdravoseljaÄkog razuma.
Koji kaže da je u posljednjih 8 mjeseci od covida obolilo 40 milijuna ljudi a da se bolest navodno ponovila u njih tek 50-ak.
Od tih 50-ak je većina onih koji imaju nikakav imunitet, ljudi s teškim bolestima a ima i onih koji su bili false positive ranije.
Sad podijeli npr 20/40mil i dobiješ da je trenutno šansa ponovne zaraze = 0.
Dakle, postoji dobra šansa da je imunitet dugotrajan, kao kod prvog rođaka ovog virusa - SARS-a gdje su oni koji ga prebole sigurni barem još 3 godine.
I pusti Billa i teÅ¡ke metale. Da Bill hoće pobit Afrikance ne bi na njih poslao virus koji ne dira reproduktivno sposobne već kosi samo starÄad.
Nije zdravo hvatat se teorija zavjere jer je takvo ponaÅ¡anje obiÄno povezano s nekim poremećajima liÄnosti.
Ico
makinista
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Digital
Capo di tutti capi
Lagali su nam
Nakon 40 godina, koliko se traži cjepivo za AIDS, njega i dan-danas nema. On prebrzo i previÅ¡e mutira. SliÄna je stvar i s koronavirusom:
https://www.jutarnji.hr/life/znanost...zasto-15015050
https://net.hr/danas/svijet/ovog-vir...do-sada-znali/
U najboljem sluÄaju imat ćemo sezonski virus, sliÄno ko gripa.
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Pandemija je dosla ciljano, umisto svjetskih ratova, u cilju novog svjetskog poretka. Jos jedna u nizu situacija "utraj straj u kosti pa vladaj", a sve se to lipo provodi od strane velikih igraca! Sada je samo pitanje tko ce u ovom Ä‘umbusu najvise profitirat, koji Bill Gatesovi te koja svjetska udruzenja...
fiume88
New member
Ne znam ako si primjetio, tema je Royal Caribbean, ne novi svjetski poredak, bilderberg ekipa, teorije zavjere i slicno.
Magna
SETO
S obzirom koliko ima vjernika na kugli zemaljskoj nije ni Äudo. Kad zbrojiÅ¡ dva i dva lakÅ¡e je i uvjerljivije posložiti priÄu o 5G i Äipiranju nego o božjoj volji
Danas je rukovodstvo preko svog propagandnog glasila izdalo sljedeće priopćenje:
Dear Royal Caribbean Family, We hope you are doing well. In the last edition of The ROYAL Way Newsletter, we celebrated the return of Quantum of the Seas into service. Our crew members have been mobilized, and over the next month, they will be joining the ship in Singapore. We are embarking on a historic adventure not only for our business but also for the cruising industry. In the past two weeks, we have worked through multiple governmental agency changes that have caused us to make many adjustments to our plan. Some of these changes are happening as you, our crew, are on the way to our ships and we are proud to say that our teams have met these challenges with flexibility and quick actions. The biggest lesson we have learned is that there are still some unknowns in our healthy return to service, and we will have to learn and adjust along the way. We can see how passionate our teams are about our return, and our collective ability to act, learn, and act again will truly make this a healthy return to service. We know the past seven months have been challenging and we all agree that we are in this together. The entire Royal family is working towards the same goal – to bring our first ships back into service safely and eventually, our entire fleet safely back into business. So, let’s stay connected! We will continue to keep you updated biweekly through The ROYAL Way Newsletter. As a reminder, you can also get the latest updates on our Healthy Return to Service from MyRCL or your onboard leadership teams. Until next time, stay well, take care of yourself and your families, and please wash your hands! We are Greg and Mark, and We are ROYAL!
Dear Royal Caribbean Family, We hope you are doing well. In the last edition of The ROYAL Way Newsletter, we celebrated the return of Quantum of the Seas into service. Our crew members have been mobilized, and over the next month, they will be joining the ship in Singapore. We are embarking on a historic adventure not only for our business but also for the cruising industry. In the past two weeks, we have worked through multiple governmental agency changes that have caused us to make many adjustments to our plan. Some of these changes are happening as you, our crew, are on the way to our ships and we are proud to say that our teams have met these challenges with flexibility and quick actions. The biggest lesson we have learned is that there are still some unknowns in our healthy return to service, and we will have to learn and adjust along the way. We can see how passionate our teams are about our return, and our collective ability to act, learn, and act again will truly make this a healthy return to service. We know the past seven months have been challenging and we all agree that we are in this together. The entire Royal family is working towards the same goal – to bring our first ships back into service safely and eventually, our entire fleet safely back into business. So, let’s stay connected! We will continue to keep you updated biweekly through The ROYAL Way Newsletter. As a reminder, you can also get the latest updates on our Healthy Return to Service from MyRCL or your onboard leadership teams. Until next time, stay well, take care of yourself and your families, and please wash your hands! We are Greg and Mark, and We are ROYAL!
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New Conditional Sailing Order is a step in the right direction!
Based on our current understanding, the No Sail Order is being replaced with the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order, which will take a phased approach to guest cruising. We’re excited about this promising news.
Our company, along with the rest of the cruise industry, now looks ahead at the opportunity to provide more job opportunities for our crew and deliver memorable vacations for our guests.
What’s next?
As you read this, leadership across the organization is in conversation with the CDC and is carefully reviewing the updated guidelines to come up with a revised healthy return to service plan that aligns with the new order. We are assessing how and where to position crew members currently at a hotel, on board, and in transit. We are determined to maintain a plan that is compliant and promotes the well-being of all on board.
We ask that you continue to hang in there and observe all safety protocols, including self-quarantine and social distancing. We will keep you all informed as we know more details. We will communicate within a few days an outline of our plan with those at our sites, on our ships, and in transit and how the changes impact you.
We are optimistic about the journey ahead because we have the most dedicated people championing our healthy return. We have made it this far because of you and we will go far thanks to you.
The Framework for Conditional Sailing Order is a promising step in the right direction. Our guests want to come back and we look forward to delivering memorable vacation experiences. We’re making history for our company and our industry and we’re thrilled to be stepping into this moment together!
New Conditional Sailing Order is a step in the right direction!
Based on our current understanding, the No Sail Order is being replaced with the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order, which will take a phased approach to guest cruising. We’re excited about this promising news.
Our company, along with the rest of the cruise industry, now looks ahead at the opportunity to provide more job opportunities for our crew and deliver memorable vacations for our guests.
What’s next?
As you read this, leadership across the organization is in conversation with the CDC and is carefully reviewing the updated guidelines to come up with a revised healthy return to service plan that aligns with the new order. We are assessing how and where to position crew members currently at a hotel, on board, and in transit. We are determined to maintain a plan that is compliant and promotes the well-being of all on board.
We ask that you continue to hang in there and observe all safety protocols, including self-quarantine and social distancing. We will keep you all informed as we know more details. We will communicate within a few days an outline of our plan with those at our sites, on our ships, and in transit and how the changes impact you.
We are optimistic about the journey ahead because we have the most dedicated people championing our healthy return. We have made it this far because of you and we will go far thanks to you.
The Framework for Conditional Sailing Order is a promising step in the right direction. Our guests want to come back and we look forward to delivering memorable vacation experiences. We’re making history for our company and our industry and we’re thrilled to be stepping into this moment together!
USA Today piše:
CDC: 'Conditional Sailing Order' allows cruise lines to sail Nov. 1 but it's not likely they will
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will allow cruise ships to sail in U.S. waters starting Sunday.But even if they do, passengers won't be waving goodbye from the deck. In fact, the agency hasn't said when they'll be allowed back on board.
That's according to the public health agency's new "Framework for Conditional Sailing Order,"which replaces the eight-month "no sail" order that expires this weekend. Published Friday, it “introduces a phased approach for the safe and responsible resumption for passenger cruises,†the CDC said in a release provided by spokesperson Cate Shockey.
"This 'Framework of Conditional Sailing' lays out a pathway – a phased, deliberate and intentional pathway – toward resuming passenger services but only when it is safe, when [the cruise industry] can assure health and when they are responsible with respects of needs of crew passengers and port communities," Dr. Martin Cetron, director of the CDC's Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, told USA TODAY.
The first cruises to leave port will be simulation sailings designed to show that ships and crews are in compliance with CDC standards and able to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 onboard.
“During the initial phases, cruise ship operators must demonstrate adherence to testing, quarantine and isolation, and social distancing requirements to protect crew members while they build the laboratory capacity needed to test crew and future passengers," the agency explained.
Cruise ships line up along Port Miami on March 15 in Miami, Fla.
PEDRO PORTAL/MIAMI HERALD/TNS
Subsequent phases will include mock voyages with volunteers such as employees or their family members, Shockey told USA TODAY. Those test voyages will be akin to the shakedown cruises that lines do with any new vessel prior to its official maiden voyage.
"We look forward to reviewing the order in greater detail and working with the CDC to advance a return to cruising from U.S. ports," Cruise Lines International Association, the leading industry organization, said in a statement provided by Bari Golin-Blaugrund, the trade group's vice president of strategic communications.
"This is a potential turning point in the shared perspective between the industry and CDC with a shared set of goals and a commitment to only return to sailing when it’s safe, healthy and responsible," Cetron noted.
In order to resume passenger sailings, according to the order, each ship must earn a "COVID-19 Conditional Sailing Certificate" from the CDC.
"A cruise ship operator must have successfully conducted a simulated voyage or series of simulated voyages demonstrating the cruise ship operator’s ability to mitigate the risks of COVID-19 onboard its cruise ship," the order reads.
Before they begin the process of test cruises, all crew already on board must be tested for COVID-19.
The initial phase, he said, will be crew-centric, making sure that there are proper safeguards and adequate testing capability for workers.
Cruises during the second phase won't carry passengers, either. Crew will have their own test cruises and then a voluntary test cruise phase before ticketed passengers can board.
"This is a phase that has simulated mock voyages of increasing, duration, complexity and numbers in order to test and implement scaling up and feasibility of the plan," Cetron said.
Based on how simulations go, he said the CDC's requirements maychange. "This isn’t a race from A to Z. This is navigating a safe path."
Cetron isn't prepared to guess when passenger cruising will actually begin.
"I’m smart enough after 10 months of this pandemic not to speculate like that," he said, likening the CDC's response to an "epic" battle. "It’s basically the virus’ numbers against human ingenuity."
And what happens if a cruise ship tries to skip ahead to a new phase without approval from the CDC?
"You don’t advance along the process," Cetron said. "It’s as simple as that we’re not going to compromise [on] safety, health."
The CDC still advises against cruising
After announcing the "no sail" order's Oct. 31 expiration date, the CDC issued a "Level 3 Travel Health Notice" recommending people "defer travel" on cruise ships worldwide. The Oct. 8 statement applies to both ocean and river cruising, which has already restarted in Asia and Europe.
For those who decide to sail after all, the agency recommended that passengers returning from a cruise ship or river cruise voyage "take extra precautions to protect others for 14 days after arrival."
The health notice also warned people embarking on international cruises or making port calls in other countries that their travel could be impacted should anyone on their ship develop COVID-19. This includes being denied disembarkation, as happened to Holland America's MS Westerdam, or ordered into official quarantine onboard, as Japan did with Princess Cruises' Diamond Princess in February. The outbreak on that ship infected more than 700 people and killed more than a dozen.
In addition, it reminded elderly travelers and those with underlying conditions such as heart disease, chronic lung disease and diabetes that they are at heightened risk of severe illness if they contract COVID-19.
Cruise lines studied up during timeout
Cruising was one of the first casualties of coronavirus, especially among lines that operate in Asia, where the pandemic first took root.
A CDC report revealed that from March 1 to July 10, 2,973 cases of COVID-19 or "COVID-like" illnesses emerged on cruise ships, and there were 34 deaths. During that period, there were 99 outbreaks on 123 cruise ships, meaning that 80% of U.S. jurisdiction ships were affected.
Cruise lines spent much of the ensuing eight-month timeout figuring out how to operate safely once it's allowed to resume sailing in U.S. waters. Earlier this month, CLIA member lines recommendations for preventing and mitigating the spread of COVID-19 on their passenger ships, including testing, face coverings and temperature checks.
“(We have done) tremendous learning about the virus over these months,†Adam Goldstein, global chair of CLIA, said at a virtual news conference in September.
Cruise line executives are echoing his statement.
"At this time we have every reason to be optimistic that we will be sailing in the U.S. before year end," Carnival Corp. CEO Arnold Donald said on an earnings call earlier this month.
And Richard Fain, CEO of Royal Caribbean Group also believes that the industry has found a way to move forward.
"We do believe it is possible to make it that you are safer on a cruise ship than you are on 'Main Street'," he said on an earnings call Thursday.
CDC: 'Conditional Sailing Order' allows cruise lines to sail Nov. 1 but it's not likely they will
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will allow cruise ships to sail in U.S. waters starting Sunday.But even if they do, passengers won't be waving goodbye from the deck. In fact, the agency hasn't said when they'll be allowed back on board.
That's according to the public health agency's new "Framework for Conditional Sailing Order,"which replaces the eight-month "no sail" order that expires this weekend. Published Friday, it “introduces a phased approach for the safe and responsible resumption for passenger cruises,†the CDC said in a release provided by spokesperson Cate Shockey.
"This 'Framework of Conditional Sailing' lays out a pathway – a phased, deliberate and intentional pathway – toward resuming passenger services but only when it is safe, when [the cruise industry] can assure health and when they are responsible with respects of needs of crew passengers and port communities," Dr. Martin Cetron, director of the CDC's Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, told USA TODAY.
The first cruises to leave port will be simulation sailings designed to show that ships and crews are in compliance with CDC standards and able to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 onboard.
“During the initial phases, cruise ship operators must demonstrate adherence to testing, quarantine and isolation, and social distancing requirements to protect crew members while they build the laboratory capacity needed to test crew and future passengers," the agency explained.
Cruise ships line up along Port Miami on March 15 in Miami, Fla.
PEDRO PORTAL/MIAMI HERALD/TNS
Subsequent phases will include mock voyages with volunteers such as employees or their family members, Shockey told USA TODAY. Those test voyages will be akin to the shakedown cruises that lines do with any new vessel prior to its official maiden voyage.
"We look forward to reviewing the order in greater detail and working with the CDC to advance a return to cruising from U.S. ports," Cruise Lines International Association, the leading industry organization, said in a statement provided by Bari Golin-Blaugrund, the trade group's vice president of strategic communications.
"This is a potential turning point in the shared perspective between the industry and CDC with a shared set of goals and a commitment to only return to sailing when it’s safe, healthy and responsible," Cetron noted.
In order to resume passenger sailings, according to the order, each ship must earn a "COVID-19 Conditional Sailing Certificate" from the CDC.
"A cruise ship operator must have successfully conducted a simulated voyage or series of simulated voyages demonstrating the cruise ship operator’s ability to mitigate the risks of COVID-19 onboard its cruise ship," the order reads.
Before they begin the process of test cruises, all crew already on board must be tested for COVID-19.
The initial phase, he said, will be crew-centric, making sure that there are proper safeguards and adequate testing capability for workers.
Cruises during the second phase won't carry passengers, either. Crew will have their own test cruises and then a voluntary test cruise phase before ticketed passengers can board.
"This is a phase that has simulated mock voyages of increasing, duration, complexity and numbers in order to test and implement scaling up and feasibility of the plan," Cetron said.
Based on how simulations go, he said the CDC's requirements maychange. "This isn’t a race from A to Z. This is navigating a safe path."
Cetron isn't prepared to guess when passenger cruising will actually begin.
"I’m smart enough after 10 months of this pandemic not to speculate like that," he said, likening the CDC's response to an "epic" battle. "It’s basically the virus’ numbers against human ingenuity."
And what happens if a cruise ship tries to skip ahead to a new phase without approval from the CDC?
"You don’t advance along the process," Cetron said. "It’s as simple as that we’re not going to compromise [on] safety, health."
The CDC still advises against cruising
After announcing the "no sail" order's Oct. 31 expiration date, the CDC issued a "Level 3 Travel Health Notice" recommending people "defer travel" on cruise ships worldwide. The Oct. 8 statement applies to both ocean and river cruising, which has already restarted in Asia and Europe.
For those who decide to sail after all, the agency recommended that passengers returning from a cruise ship or river cruise voyage "take extra precautions to protect others for 14 days after arrival."
The health notice also warned people embarking on international cruises or making port calls in other countries that their travel could be impacted should anyone on their ship develop COVID-19. This includes being denied disembarkation, as happened to Holland America's MS Westerdam, or ordered into official quarantine onboard, as Japan did with Princess Cruises' Diamond Princess in February. The outbreak on that ship infected more than 700 people and killed more than a dozen.
In addition, it reminded elderly travelers and those with underlying conditions such as heart disease, chronic lung disease and diabetes that they are at heightened risk of severe illness if they contract COVID-19.
Cruise lines studied up during timeout
Cruising was one of the first casualties of coronavirus, especially among lines that operate in Asia, where the pandemic first took root.
A CDC report revealed that from March 1 to July 10, 2,973 cases of COVID-19 or "COVID-like" illnesses emerged on cruise ships, and there were 34 deaths. During that period, there were 99 outbreaks on 123 cruise ships, meaning that 80% of U.S. jurisdiction ships were affected.
Cruise lines spent much of the ensuing eight-month timeout figuring out how to operate safely once it's allowed to resume sailing in U.S. waters. Earlier this month, CLIA member lines recommendations for preventing and mitigating the spread of COVID-19 on their passenger ships, including testing, face coverings and temperature checks.
“(We have done) tremendous learning about the virus over these months,†Adam Goldstein, global chair of CLIA, said at a virtual news conference in September.
Cruise line executives are echoing his statement.
"At this time we have every reason to be optimistic that we will be sailing in the U.S. before year end," Carnival Corp. CEO Arnold Donald said on an earnings call earlier this month.
And Richard Fain, CEO of Royal Caribbean Group also believes that the industry has found a way to move forward.
"We do believe it is possible to make it that you are safer on a cruise ship than you are on 'Main Street'," he said on an earnings call Thursday.